“This is why we’re having a hard time getting anywhere with the discussion guys. We can’t seem to stop saying “Good stuff is good when it isn’t bad. And if stuff is bad, we need to step up and make it good by really working hard to ensure it’s not bad.” Zero sarcasm. There is no definition of “quality.” That is the circular nature of this discussion.”  See Here for original post.

Well, it is interesting to see how quickly a little Google algo blip can change ones opinion. All of a sudden he is able to recognize crap, even if it is just his own crap. I pulled my sites out of PR at least 6 months ago because there was no way I could continue to receive and post the junk I was getting. I have no interest in paying for what is essentially an article directory for backlinks. I will buy into a system like that (such as BMR), but I have NO interest in owning a system like that. Further, because so few people at TKA had any inclination that maintaining some standard of quality in the system would be good for the longevity of the system, I felt like I was herding cats uphill.  This quote from Lisa (the forum moderator among other things) shows what I mean.  In a discussion about quality in the Postrunner system she said,

“It’s ALWAYS going to be one mans trash is another mans treasure. Always. No amount of TKA Threads are going to change that. different strokes for different folks. Not sure how many cliches i can throw out here, but it’s the truth.”  Original Here.

Back then I argued quite passionately on the TKA forums that, while I might not be able to define ‘quality’, I did really know CRAP when I saw it … and I was seeing way too much of it. It is also sooo humorous to see RJ (breakaway) and his pack of trolls all of a sudden not making fun of people who have been begging for quality to be maintained in the Postrunner system. His little troll party pretty much drove Edward (and several other members) out of town for his rants about how Postrunner was going to the dogs with all the CRAP articles.

The tide turns … it goes out, it comes in. Hopefully this change in tides brings some lasting changes to the Postrunner system and provides some quality sites to use rather than the junk that it is currently full of.

If you don’t know what Postrunner is – sign up at The Keyword Accademy (it’s free for the first month) and see what it is all about. If you are looking for backlinks, it is the best system out there … it just could be better.

Others have jumped into the fray, throwing in a few gratuitous kicks and punches.   One of the better posts was by SEO Ignitor.  His take on the whole sorted affair is titled Make Money Online Reading Forums and is a really funny read on how many people get sucked into reading forums thinking that they are going to make money by doing so.

For that matter, even great forums like the one at TKA have their share of readers for money – willing to read every word that is posted there, commenting often, but unable to demonstrate that they are able to make money online themselves.

I’m no psychologist, but I suspect that these people do self-defeating things like this because they are afraid of failure.  What if…  What happens when… What am I going to do?!?  That sort of inner dialog is really dangerous and hurts any chance you have of making money online.  I don’t know who said this (and I’m to lazy to Google it), but someone once said ‘better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all’ or something like that.  The best way to conquer this fear is to just do something … anything (except read forums) to break out of this behaviour pattern.  Pick a simple strategy and run with it for a while.  Make 100 Hubs – that’s what I did and now those Hubs bring in several hundred dollars a month.  Do anything you can to silence the little voices  in your head.  Just do it!